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Passing the baton
published: Saturday | November 10, 2007

Mark Dawes, Staff Reporter

Bishop S.U. Thomas (right) enrobes his son, Bishop C. Everton Thomas, during the service of investiture in Kingston as senior pastor of the Slipe Road Emmanuel Apostolic Church. The service took place on July 8. The elder Bishop Thomas stepped down as senior pastor of the church after 38 years at the helm. - Contributed

He has been at the helm leadership of the Emmanuel Apostolic Church group in Jamaica for almost four decades. Now Bishop Silbert Uriah Thomas, 82, is about to hand over the baton to a new leader this month. The new leader is his son, Bishop Calbert Everton Thomas.

A Christian for 62 years, the elder Bishop Thomas served for about 15 years under the leadership of Evangelist Mulvina White (Mother White) who founded both the Emmanuel Apostolic Church denomination in 1923 and the Kingston-based Emmanuel Apostolic Church congregation that now meets at Slipe Road. The Emmanuel Apostolic Church group is Oneness Pentecostal in creed.

When Evangelist White died in 1969, Bishop Thomas (the elder) was promoted from assistant pastor to senior pastor. At the time of her death, he was a bishop in the church group. He was that same year, however, promoted to become the presiding bishop of the denomination. So for the past 38 years, he has served both as senior pastor and presiding bishop.

When the elder Bishop Thomas took over as presiding bishop, the denomination had 32 churches islandwide. That number grew on his watch. The Emmanuel Apostolic Church group now has 42 congregations islandwide and three branches planted in North America.

Despite the vigour with which he walks, the elder Bishop Thomas acknowledges that his age is a factor in him stepping down at this time. "I think I am not giving my best service now because of age. I am passing it over to him (Bishop Everton Thomas) and asking him to do his best."

The elder Bishop Thomas has few regrets as he looks back at his career and ministry. "I have tried to teach and preach the gospel to people - holiness and righteousness in all. I have not only preached it. I have tried to live it. There is hardly anything you could say I would do differently now." His advice to his successor is simply, "Copy my life. Seek righteousness, trust God and pursue faith."

He speaks with pride of his late wife, Evangelist Joyce Thomas, who died in 2005 who complemented his ministry. "I was married to the same woman for 57 years, make sure you write that," he told this reporter. That union produced nine offspring - three boys and six girls. He is now basking in the joy of being the grandfather to more than 30 grandchildren.

Since July the senior Bishop Thomas has stepped aside from his substantive post as senior pastor of the Slipe Road megachurch which is housed in what used to be Tropical Theatre. His son, Bishop Everton, is currently fulfilling that role, in addition to working as senior pastor at the denomination's Portmore congregation.

no jacket and ties

On succeeding his father as leader of the denomination, Bishop Everton Thomas hopes to do something major to benefit the serving pastors. "One of the first things I want to do is to sit down with each pastor in an informal setting - no jacket and ties, no Bibles per se - just to find out how he/she is doing as an individual. I want to sit down and find out how they are doing personally, they themselves and their families, to see what we can do as an organisation to ensure that their quality of living is brought up as much as is possible," said presiding bishop-elect.

No stranger to the highest levels of church leadership, Bishop Everton Thomas is the chairman of the Portmore Ministers' Fraternal, president of the Jamaica Pentecostal Union, board member of the National Religious Media Commission - owners and operators of LOVE-TV and LOVE 101 FM.

As presiding bishop, he told The Gleaner that his vision is for the denomination to "be a Pentecostal movement committed to the authority of the Holy Scriptures for faith and direction while embracing effective ministry paradigms for the 21st century".

He said he would be working to:

Strengthen the existing churches

Plant new churches

Provide training for the leaders and the workers

Ensure that the churches are meeting the needs of the community, spiritually, socially.

sophisticated generation

As a minister of the gospel, the incoming presiding bishop acknowledged that new ways need to be employed to do evangelism while remaining faithful to the message of the Bible.

He acknowledged that the present generation is more sophisticated than any that came before it. He said: "Each generation has got to minister to its generation. Jesus said go into all the world and preach the gospel. But He did not tell us how. He left it up to us to find the strategy and methods that would be effectively used in every generation. This generation is a post-Christian generation, it is an MTV generation, it is an iPod generation, we have to find a way to reach this generation in creative ways that is going to make sense to them, that is going to be relevant to them so that they are getting the message in a very creative way. The church has to tweak its methods. The message must not change but the methods must change."

Bishop Thomas (the younger) hopes to steer the denomination to becoming a church group that sends people on cross-cultural evangelistic ministry and missions. In this respect, he said sending a team to do ministry in Cuba is uppermost in his mind.

The two bishops are careful to state that there is no nepotism involved in the changing of the guard. Bishop Everton Thomas, 51, explained that there was a twofold process involved in his selection to succeed his father. First, last March, the Board of Bishops of the denomination selected him to become presiding bishop. This board comprises seven bishops, two of whom reside in Florida. Second, the nominee of the Board of Bishops is placed before the Ministerial Council of the denomination for ratification. This happened last July.

introspection

Under his denomination's polity, the younger Bishop Thomas explained, he will continue to function as a pastor running the denomination.

Bishop Everton Thomas comes to the top job of the Emmanuel Apostolic Church group at time when it is undergoing some amount of introspection with regards to long-standing traditions related to dress code.

Three years ago, his father made some declarations regarding standards of dress. The result has been that women are not obligated to wear hats and they may now process their hair. However, the denomination, the younger bishop explained, is re-examining its position with regards to women wearing pants and jewellery. He said the denomination does not want the dress code to move from one extreme to the other. Hence, it is diligently exploring the issues.

On the morning of Saturday, November 17, Bishop S.U. Thomas and F.A. Senior, the Canada-based deputy presiding bishop, who is also retiring, will both be honoured at an appreciation brunch to be held at The Jamaica Pegasus hotel, New Kingston. Then at 1:30 p.m. that afternoon, Bishop Everton Thomas will be formally installed as as presiding bishop in a service to be held at the Slipe Road church.

Personal statement

I attend the Emmanuel Apostolic Church in Leicester. For those who enjoy singing and playing music I recommend the Emmanuel Apostolic Gospel Academy (official website click: EAGA) at the DMU University in Leicester, which I attend. Want to know more EAGA or upcoming events please email me. I must say that the Lord Jesus has made a major impact in my life by guiding me through my education and bringing me to where I am today.

Final Year project: Church Interior Design Package. This was a 3D design software package implemented using Java programming langauage and Java3D API packages. Screen shots.

Research Interests

• Algorithms and data structures
• Succinct data structures for representing trees

• The processing and in-memory representations of XML Documents
  The research involves the efficient representation and processing of large XML documents in main memory, where resources are limited. We have recently engineered Succinct DOM, a read-only DOM implementation written in C++ that has efficient memory usage and operational speed. (** Succinct-DOM libraries are now available - download).
  PhD Supervisor: Profressor Rajeev Raman.

Publications

• Engineering the LOUDS Succinct Tree Representation [pdf].
  O.Delpratt, N. Rahman, R. Raman. In the proceedings of WEA 2006, LNCS 4007, p. 134-145.
  © Springer-Vertag. Place: Cala Galdana, Menorca, Spain. (PHOTO ALBUM)
  
• Compressed Prefix Sums [pdf].
  O. Delpratt, N. Rahman, R. Raman. In the proceedings of SOFSEM 2007 , LNCS 4362, p. 235-247.
  © Springer-Vertag. Place: Harrachov, Czech Republic. (PHOTO Page1, PHOTO Page2)

• Engineering Succinct DOM [pdf].
  O. Delpratt, N. Rahman, R. Raman. In the proceedings of EDBT 2008. Place: Nantes, France.
  © 2008 ACM 978-1-59593-926-5/08/0003.

Projects and Training

• UK GRAD Programme CRAC Course, Windermere UK, 14th-18th March 2005
  Transferable skills development
  
  
• PPARC UK e-Science Postgraduate Summer School National e-science Centre, Edinburgh, 9th-13th May 2005
  
  
• Researchers In Residence School Placement: The Lancaster School, Leicester, 5th-9th September 2005
  Programme funded by Research Council UK and Wellcome Trust
  
  
• Cosmic Africa Project African Caribbean Network for Science Technology
  
  
• XML Prague: 2006, 2007, *2009* Conference on XML for developers, markup geeks and students. Place: Charles University, Prague, Czech Republic.
  Posters presented:

  Engineering Succinct DOM presented in 2007.

  SDOM 1.0 Library presented in 2009.

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SUBJECT: Oneil (aka Orlando) Here Again - Man A Fatten Foul For Mongoose

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Dear Family, Friends, Saints, AGAIN

The last time you heard from me was 2009 or January 2010. God has been good and all, still ill * (see pray for me attachment of symptoms that still occur/persist, though fat and healthy looking)but better, actually fat (Man a fatten foul fi mongoose). Greetings to all my friends, family and saints. One love!

Sincerely,

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FAMILY ORIENTED

Birthday wishes to my mom (may 2), dad (may 17), brother/sister (may 24), sister (April 9), mother's day (May) and father's day (June), all end in June so usually do it once about this time. Also heard sister getting married march 2011; in the real world, hope I could make it (yet reality, "Your Comet - 2010 lies"). So greets really for those in the press (Pass Job 17:14).

CHURCH/COMMUNITY ORIENTED

Sorry Emmanuelites and EAC HQ, couldn't make the February 2010 church reunion but hope all went well and to still keep in contact. In fact, here is a straight official domain for the unofficial Emmanuel Apostolic Church community link-up website:

http://www.emmanuelpeople.com

When the official church websites comes available from HQ, put a link up on this unofficial one and the official one that started early 2000's sanctioned by bishop. This same notice goes for my, and all, Kingston College pass classmates with this straight domain for link up, relays;

http://www.kcforever.com

GENERAL NOTICE

Please Continue To Pray For Me, Oneil McQuick see attachments below on why, but simply because of me young and avaricious overtly spreading the truth and dismantling satan's kingdom (beyond what can be seen) I'm afflicted in the body, mind and soul, as the Apostle Paul; and not as some might contest in Psalms 107:17, "Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted." Others might contest what they said of David, "An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him: and now that he lieth he shall rise up no more" ( Psalms 41:8) - but we know better of David yet while in this state "My lovers and my friends stand aloof from my sore; and my kinsmen stand afar off" ( Psalms 38:11). If King David imagine little nobody me and how you or any would scorn or whisper, even politically correctly to continue the mask of Christendom, when rather we are taught, "Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ" ( Gal 6:2). Thanks.

Fools afflicted in example of these I DO NOT DO or ever will, rebellion, evading the law or arrest, witchcraft, sedition, heresy, cultic, fraud, money laundering, ponzi scheme, pyramid scheme, "liar", stealing, cheaper, swindler, dishonesty, tax evasion, smuggling, unbelief, sexual immorality (sex before marriage, adultery, homosexuality ,bestiality, rape, pedophile, etc), eagerness for lustful pleasure, idolatry, participation in demonic activities (physic, spirit mediums, tarot cards, necromancy ,horoscope), hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, divisions, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, worshipping other gods, idolizing people or thing, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior , gossip, back stabber, haters of God, insolent, proud, boastful, forever inventing new ways of sinning, disobedient to parents, refuse to understand, break their promises, heartless, unforgiving and many others. Not justifying myself or that sometimes I don't slip (Isa 40:30-31, Isa 54:17, Prov 24:16 ) for Christ already Justified me regardless of any thing (Heb 10:14, Rom 8:1). Never or ever will I rape or sexually molest anyone, especially while saved and though curiously promiscuous as an unsaved youth with consent. Neither am I mad (you should get the piece "No Mental Illnesses...," see it), nor suicidal or cultic/heretic, as said somethings "hard to be understood" (2 Peter 3:16) but some will foolishly quote bible and say, "tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive… Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart.. Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness" (Ephesians 4:14, 18-19) -OR- "which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck" (1 Timothy 1:19) -OR- "Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord…But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;" (2 Peter 2:11-12) -OR- "Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds [they are] without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever" (Jude 1:11-13) -OR- "Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all [men], as theirs also was." (2 Timothy 3:5-9) -OR- "boasting himself to be somebody" (Acts 5:36). And not because I seem to understand certain things make it witchcraft or make me evil or the anti-Christ, as said of him "... understanding dark sentences" (Daniel 8:23).

Oh, saying these stuff in parables make me sound like a terrorist in the human world (words like bomb, etc.), to those unaware, I am not a terrorist! All Bible expository encoded and related in parables.

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ASTERIK (*) IN EMAIL DENOTES:

I was spitting mucous/blood ill in Florida (2002-2006) but healthier then when left for north USA to a bible school invitation and to independently "build mine own house" (Prov 24:27), was one of the "God Said" verses in leaving south ("God bless a child that has his own"), that is, to seek the American dream. That was the truth in going north, leaving USA mat - Florida, but resulted in CSI:Heaven (see ALT Text) and as left in subliminal of box in regards to leaving mat, "goings in red" (empathize P.I.) and CSI, they coin me a matador ("bull fighter"). Satan's trick was to make the 12 bulls (etc.) black (or cleave-hind), then evils escape and one of his hand cut off; even send a rhetoric of Madonna's hit Music Video "take a bow," seems also a burger option seductive sway of the material girl. Some evils see box as this, a matador, their subliminal, but also see him as the bull, their set up of matador (box) or end game to escape. This time not just one hand, but all satan, all evils perish to extinction. This is another reason for press on my mind to a pulp or madden by Madonna(s), as said in the attached piece "Box, You Flop, Shut Up." That is, mad press on my mind to prevent or overturn or just retaliation of this justice done. Yet one of many reasons for given name Madonna subliminal, that is, G-satan crafty enough to get the real evils out of judgment to begin again and he not get mad in this basket case with box. Another reason is claim astuteness to do the trident dragon ball wrap than its computer equivalent of the Don or Abyss and not get mad (Madonna), as it is that difficult, but to, and as such, with or without it, forward / cover Abyss evils in their equivalent to rams and universal conquest. Also as such, to attempt dismantle "the grab" presently, to suppress foreclosure stance, and return to earth harvest for evil. But all know the details of Trident wrap from Christ mind imprint, even at first stage, that is, tangle with it and you become him, from spirit beings to obeast, no getting around it, and so locked to foreclosure now (not just west but world to solar system) and bring the reserve to God to pluck out / dismantle only, and after the boom! Good thing, for anything less than boom is futile. Example, EA them saw this boom coming, that is, box in Caribbean, so start war in island of Grenada (1980's box birth), Grenada for word grenade, so create a war rumble to kill box inadvertently, mike resisted for the CL (see 'L') in Clint Eastwood (see column 1 of angel note attached called "You Weigh It"), also obeast time hop back to prevent, greens also and the list goes on. So 'G' left in subliminal for Mike is NFL, as describe in "Your Comet-2010 Lies," that is NFL football super bowl. That is, "Mike you already see the "L", we made a deal, kill box with a short boom over Florida only ("had to" excuse fixed also), Florida state abbreviation is FL, so NFL = End FL or End Florida, the least as said in August 2009 angel note 11x17 Pinup. The max is USA and we begin again, USA is a super bowl, of the evils harvest thus far. Example, though Russia sprinted ahead, USA advanced and perfected satellites, computerization, etc. So? The Beast System was to chip all beings manually, to chip their souls, grab and archive their consciousness on the computerize, also spiced (CS) ram to heaven. USA was the test dummy to satellites, if USA gone, launched pad gone, chip program stopped. NO! Their satellites in orbit and knowledge reached can relocate and perfect it to wirelessly chip your soul from a satellite wave that inject an implant. Again, America create a fad of cameras in home and internet, first world fad spread and become third worlds fad and they innocently caught in following-the-jones. A country like Africa still in tribes take less time for home with internet, take pictures, upload it and you unaware that it can be archived and from it duplicate you physically, with a pull back or hour-glass-effect, as time stamps are, as said in "God Memo 2" and "Your Comet - 2010 Lies." Now rather than the usual of using heaven funds of Shepherd and Abyss Bull networks to advance a country (laden with their evils) to ensnare them, the satellites snap your picture when you walk out the door or no house but tribe. Only reason I entangle with it in red, is expecting the foreclosure - "in it to win it." Details of the super-bowl is great that if foreclosure, and heaven praising God for it of USA as stated in bible book revelation of the Great Whore call Babylon fallen, it would be a trick or give to get more and heaven appease. Example again, "G" them saying to the evil conspirators, we win if so and not to follow Mike digging box incidentally, of horsemen with big stones from box archive on him, in box infection Florida to give us in the East (Eastwood); but boom Florida, we already have those bug via their time hop back and bowl in super-bowl coincide with bowls of column 2 and 3 on "You Weigh It" poster, of grays making sex dolls to rape box blindly, the sex dolls having bigger stones to come near. All know box is holy, and we run around until we can really do such things to him, so these grays bowls are blindly swung away or raped themselves, so like an NFL football rush, position yourselves so the rings inadvertently have to cause them to run into you, then copy them and the stones - sex network, abyss stamps, etc. This is also a super bowl in that they doing this evil don't know they are being judged to extinction, so fleshly obeast wiped out (dog expertise) and we have millennium of death spices reserved as us (eyes) and no more intelligent life form that can interfere with our plans. So rings you get the DARN picture and delay no further clean up wipes! Foreclose the Earth - boom! "The world is not enough" (007), and obey God Memo 1. Even if clean, re-clean and spotless, as long as the earth remains there is harvesting of unmatched evils, rams, etc. The word given in bible by God was "bake," cleaning the food off the stove doesn't prevent more bake goods. Get rid of the stove - earth !


Concerning MAT, moving from the effects to the core of evil operations, you in heaven are also in the core of operations. (1) The SS symbol on the germany armies, like the Swastika's of the 4 'L' had meanings. That is the deal Gab had with Mike. S, swirling up and down, that is, the rams, up is far as I can go but Mike to release the ram to heaven take over at the end. s = two curves, one at top and one at bottom. Mike control the top and Gab the bottom. So in heaven, in the good (mike here), you were in the core of operations, trick to fight the incoming when to actually forward it. That was the deal with Mike, and at the end, he would be the helm of the conspiracy. Gab seem to trick him, as no longer being dependent but can upward take over by himself, that is, the 'L,' base down control and stream upwards, with no swirl down of a batted ram, as in the shape of the 'S.' And as in column 1 of "You Weigh It," this is not a mystery between two eyes of God, to cover all evil operations, or Gab satan charter to stir the evil in mike then he alone escape. Both were dowing real evils to you, to us, to all. (2) One of the old battered rams with one hand of satan, about 3 milleniums ago, is Lucifer, blacken the bulls, etc, then ram heaven, pluck off that Lucifer hand and satan begin again. 'L' in Lucifer is one of the 4 'L' of the Swastika, he as destroyed imprision in the Abyss was to try an manipulate the old rams of obeast on heaven infection, so that the obeast clean from them would time dive and handle them then patty them, like what Barb/Herod them can do. God refer to it as "the way of the east," only Moses beside box can do it. That is, after the infection, then it cleaned, limbo in your time-life, swoop down to your very existence beginning, and like a patty, stream up as you then is you at present. In earth, the angels here and soldiers in rams, have one hand in the earth, the obeast can patty that but not the head in heaven, Lucifer was to dedicate his expertise to moving the patty from one hand to the actually head of the person in heaven - 50 sandhedrin council, etc. Box in the pre-times did it to the 4 horns of the earth, so earth or all world tables (4 horns) was adjusted to prevent that, but not angels diving in earth. So Satan, notice 'S' at front for his role to bring rams, swirling up and down, would gain an 'L', base to hold all, take over and stay in heaven and universally. The other known 'L' was satalite angels, easier and user friendly. So mike would upset he is cut out of the picture and would no longer think he would be the helm or GOD at the end, with controlable evil subjects. Barb/Herod them excel to the way of the east, by pattying north folks hand, to their selves in the bubbles in the sky and upper joint in the heaven base paradise, three joints, the north folks evil made, so after the matador bull fight, they come back to their big hands of stones and begin evil again. Herod reach to their selves in the heaven base paradise was cleaned, one of the green cleanings there, in literally ripping off clothes. Herod hands that stretch from the north folks hands to heaven was was called "Hamath the great" (Amos 6:2), he pattied heads in earth to their heads in heaven's mat, the base paradise, as far as fallen angels can go, being kicked from heaven in the early fight. The good angels, have a similiar time dive span but resereved from those times, so a time dive existence from the first war in heaven or its creation to present for a patty. Herod hand, "hamath," was exceeding great to span this far, no other obeast seem to have, not even Lucifer tweaking of it. But cut down to earth again, but as long as earth remain possible threat to top of heaven, though in earth have feet access to heaven again via pig network, who engulf all, hence Zechariah 9:2 "And Hamath also shall border thereby; Tyrus, and Zidon, though it be very wise." That is, Hamath reads, Ham - at, he is at ham or pig, border and dig there in, tyrus or ty us, for good angels in heaven, and "Zidon" for the fallen angels of Abyss base and can only go to heaven base paradise, not heaven above. "Fer" in Lucifer was for the obeast he wore in that ram, to tweak it. So? Jen is Gene or Jean, another name for Barb or the obeast from me, so Jennifer was another name sublime used to get her for that 'L,' where I was born in Jamaica, across the street lived a Jennifer and many such Jennifer placed to in my life to threaten me of this. To the moving Forrest Gump, when box go north from the Mat, Florida, a forrest of them spawn on the north, one of them possible can do it, being big, as Forrest run - "run forrest run" - that's the way they see me, than a distinguish matador. All these fallen angels and those who were in the conspiracy in heaven join Gab as such to be like a satalite angel in lewdness and gross evils unmatched or with no apprensio, heance Gab's name of Bel, that is, Be-L or Be an 'L', a satalie angel and overule God and all. AGAIN, I spilled some more non-sensical gibberish, which I don't want to do, it further complicates the already established teachings for a new beginning and for the rings, to foreclose now. Reading more subliminals is running in there cartoons, the evils want you to do and lost there is and they escape (likewise small utterance from box in his eroded mind to twist it), stay on the scriptures already given in two books ALT text and 2008-2010 Angels notes to ALT Text. Bye again!


MORE NON-SENSICAL GIBBERISH:

Note at end of "C" in the attached piece "Box, You Flop, Shut Up " = Another reason (known to angels) for pressing box mind to a pulp is to gain some structure process he improvises, where others early go mad; then copy it to gain or do like a Trident wrap and not burst or die, yet box not attaining a dragon ball in the process and if to, get process and kill him. But claim his suffering a pathway to it, regardless of great pain inflicted to death of box for selfish or any reasons - VERY EVIL. Sure a wrap, even if doable, if attain your mind crumble to a vegetable or you gone, dead but living. So it needs a rare / unique sound mind, acclaim learnt than inherent, not knowing Trident was selected for he had a similar wrap / process in the pre-times, being zealous holy strive to pluck out the sensual nerves in the spirit one by one, box likewise, via the same intent, in the pre-time, and perfected it to levels unimaginable. Torturing box doesn't gain such pathway (especially in his real eroded mind now) though some box pre-time wraps / dragon balls were in relative suffering, but rather, aside from unique or God directly downloading it, God unknowingly / invisibly foster such blossom (and the opposite), as the Star Wars movie slang "The Force Is Strong With This One," The analogy that is, but rather, God there-with (Omni-present), not a force. Or in the pre-times, see a struggling person, not to let a good man die, uphold; unaware to him or anyone, one would acclaim luck or chance. Praise Yah!